Tuesday, September 30, 2025

Wednesday Windage: Test Your Carry Ammo! UPDATED!

 Everyone who carries has probably heard the advice to practice a bit with their carry ammo, with the firearms that you will be carrying. Rotating ammo is a good idea, too, so none of your ammo dies from old age and gun oil.  I recently tried some Federal Punch .22 Long Rifle ammo in my Ruger LCP II.  The little LCP II slips in and out of a pocket easily, so I often have it with me. These little guns can dry out quickly in a pocket, so you must clean and lube them regularly to keep them running. Mine runs great on CCI Mini Mags and Stingers. During practice sessions I also feed it Remington Thunderbolts, Golden Bullets, and various Federal long rifle rounds.  The LCP is broken in and it runs reliably....



...until I tried Federal Punch .22 LR.  The punch ammo, which runs fine in my Mk III and Mk IV pistols and 10/22s will not cycle in the LCP. I had to manually extract nearly every fired case. It took a bit of looking and figuring, but what I see is that the Punch cases are not just crimped into a groove of the bullets, the case mouth is ironed in and is thinned down in the process.  Federal must be using a rotating crimping tool to make the crimp hold extra firmly. That ironed-down case mouth is then folding out so it drags in the chamber.  Even more odd, the LCP II chamber is tighter than the chambers of my Mk Pistols. A fired case from the Mks will not fit into the chamber of the LCP.  It is an unexpected problem, but one I can live with because Punch works fine in other firearms.  Check out the photos and you can see what is happening.  I plan to shoot a bit of video tomorrow, so check back and see if the problem repeats on camera for us!


Fired Punch case, unfired Punch, Mini-Mag.


Punch crimp closeup.


Punch fired case mouth closeup.

UPDATE: We had some failures to eject Federal Punch cases with the little LCP II in .22 Long Rifle, so here is a function test with a different batch of Punch ammo, and comparing function with other .22 firearms and ammo.

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

Nice close up photography. That punch case is significantly longer.

Anonymous said...

My guess- The problem is it is not a "standard .22 long rifle" case-
It is longer, and possibly running into the chamber throat .

Anonymous said...

My post above- comparison with other firearms is irrelevant- .22's in particular can be ammo sensitive, and other guns may be chambered differently. Some will actually note this- for example my Green Mountain 10-22 barrel says on the barrel, "unfired rounds may not extract"- they use a tight match chamber. Test the ammo you plan to use, in the gun you plan to use it in, x10 if talking about .22 long rifle.

David aka True Blue Sam said...

Anon: I will be running more Punch as a test, but keep the LCP II stoked with Velocitors for carry until I am satisfied.